There Is No “Anti-Vaccine” Movement

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A feature article published this month in the Public Library of Science A Broken Trust: Lessons from the Vaccine–Autism Wars endeavours to dismiss justified concerns about vaccine safety as by just illogical “anti-vaccine” campaigners with irrational views not based on evidence.  It is another sad testimony to the unscientific belief that the majority “consensus” is right when in science the reality is that often it is one person or a very few demonstrating the majority is wrong.  The author is Liza Gross, Senior Science Writer/Editor, PLoS Biology, Public Library of Science, San Francisco, California.

One of the feature article’s themes “Evidence-Resistant Theories” has some irony in dismissing well-founded concerns and more so in the light of a much-needed:-

REALITY CHECK

  • The issue is Child Health Safety.
  • There is no anti-vaccine movement.
  • There is evidence of lack of safety and oversight and of children being at risk from vaccines where the risks of the vaccines now seem overwhelmingly to outweigh claimed benefits.
  • The hazards are not being investigated or reported properly and are downplayed.

We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.

  • Despite all the lies and deceit by health official worldwide, the question “do vaccines cause autism” was answered after the Hannah  Poling story broke in the USA in February 2008 [see CHS article here].  Hannah developed an autistic condition after 9 vaccines administered the same day.  Under the media spotlight numerous US health officials and agencies conceded on broadcast US nationwide TV news from CBS and CNN. Full details with links to the original sources can be found in this CHS article: Vaccination Causes Autism – Say US Government & Merck’s Director of Vaccines. [Blue Text added 10 April 2011]
  • It is much more than autism.
  • We need well-designed properly powered large-scale studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated for all health outcomes by truly independent objective unbiased scientists – and including proper clinical data.
  • Too many government officials and medical professionals with links to the vaccine makers and the drug industry and their own conflicts of interest refuse to carry out the studies – the inference is they know the studies will not favour their view or else there would be no reason not to carry them out – the studies would settle the matter
  • Their only answer is to create the myth by label libel of an “anti-vaccine movement” and silence all critics.

  • It is the drug industry changing its business model from the one the financial markets have long known was failing – of blockbuster patented drugs – to others including one like that which made Bill Gates billions – pretty much everyone must have Microsoft’s Windows  software on their computer and everyone must be vax’ed
  • Money v Child Health Safety.

End of story (sadly)

CONCLUSIONS

The vaccinated to unvaccinated comparison studies must be done – there is no reason not to and every reason to do them.

The problem can only be resolved politically but the big players in the drug industry have applied their financial resources to develop and entrench their influence at all levels in the medical professions, in universities and Government over many years.

Only by educating parents, professionals and the media on a large scale can the political machine be directed to address the issues and the problem.

29 Responses

  1. Vaccines are the direct cause of the food allergy epidemic. Why are the manufacturers of vaccines allowed trade secret protection for vaccine ingredients? Why is peanut oil considered safe to inject along with aluminum based on studies where children eat the oil or based on the skin prick test? IT ISN’T THE SAME!! The fatal food allergies are directly caused by vaccines!! The evidence is there. We don’t need new studies. There are enough to prove it if you just look.

  2. The point cannot be stressed too strongly that at least 99% of the concern comes from parents who did what was supposed to be the right thing, and who had their children vaccinated. The damage done to those children and the hate campaign being conduct by public bodies, pharmaceutical lobby organisations and much of the media, represents the hugest betrayal of trust.

  3. It is truely frightening what is happening to our society. It’s as if we really don’t have a voice anymore. Our children have been vaccined damaged bacause we allowed a badly made vaccine into our precious children’s boodstream. The pharmaceutical companies have a lot to answer for and they seem to be getting away with murder. The MMR do gooders should turn their attention away from their pockets to wakeing up to the fact that they should be ashamed and shocked at their atrocious behaviour

  4. “Rachel Casiday, a medical anthropologist at the Centre for Integrated Health Care Research at Durham University, UK, who studied British parents’ attitudes toward MMR, says scientists should not underestimate the importance of narrative. People relate much more to a dramatic story—“he got his vaccination, he stopped interacting, and he hasn’t been the same since”—than they do to facts, risk analyses, and statistical studies. “If you discount these stories, people think you have an ulterior motive or you’re not taking them seriously,” she explains. Casiday suggests providing an alternative, science-based explanation or relating emotionally compelling tales about counter-risk—such as helplessly watching a young child die of a vaccine-preventable disease—in the same narrative format.”

    http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1000114

    Well, I wonder why anyone would mistrust Ms Casiday?

  5. We have the worst government ruling over us, who are the front men and women for the the NWO CREEPS, including the big Pharm. brigade.
    http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/
    STAY STRONG, ALWAYS FIGHT EVIL PLEASE TAKE TIME TO VISIT THIS WEB SITE, THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND JUST WHAT REALLY LIES BEHIND THIS VACCINATION SCAM.
    http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/radio/Alan_Watt_CTTM_Live_on_RBN_2007.html

  6. Vaccination is a huge against the public good, an organised enterprise of global proportions. The disease prevention bit is just the pretext the people behind it use to get parents to allow their babies to be injected with these neurotoxic substances. Unfortunately, a majority of people including medical doctors have fallen for this and are involved in this without reaising it. As prominent US health educator Dr Herbert Shelton once put it:

    “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”

    More recently, US neurosurgeon Dr Russell Blaylock MD has stated in his article ‘The Vaccine Cover-Up”:

    “Our society is littered with millions of children who have suffered harm in one degree or another from vaccines. Also, let us not forget the millions of parents who had to watch helplessly as their children’s lives have been destroyed by devastating vaccination programmes.”

    In Germany. Dr. med. Gerhard Buchwald stated on public TV: “Vaccination is a form of child abuse and a crime against humanity.” He has also warned that “We are slowly but surely destroying the intelligence of our future generations with vaccination.”

    Change will never come from the top, as admitting to anything would involve too much loss of face and revenue, The maiming and the killing wll therefore continue, unless enough parents become aware that they are being deceived and refuse to hand over their babies for injection with these dreadful poisons.

    [ED: Minor edits]

  7. The link to the graphs (Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries of Official Statistics] is broken.

    [ED: Which ones?]

  8. who wants to destroy the intelligence of most of the world?

  9. i conferr with those in the know objecting to the vaccine scammers . it truly is a tragic think occurring among us all. i looked into the whole history of vaccination even as far back as francis xavier (1500s) who brought vaccine technology to the west from the brahmans . get with the NVIC http://www.nvic.org/ and do what you can . studdy it ,this has to stop!! the holocost was a bad thing ,but the inquisition in europe dawrfs hitler’s works . ask your self just what the h___ is going on here ? ok al

  10. It cannot be denied that vaccines have ushered in many positive benefits to children around the world. Certainly studies into any risks of vaccination are indeed important, though until such studies yield conclusive results it is a disservice to our children to deny them a life free of diseases such as polio. You suggest that the evidence that vaccines are dangerous exists and is being withheld from the public. Your claim (without evidence) that there is a publication bias regarding the harm caused by vaccines, you provide absolutely no support for your claims outside your website. (The one ‘reference’ that you do include is a broken link to your own website). No publication bias can be absolute, and therefore I can only conclude that your arguments are wholly without support from the academic health community. However I can also not help but notice that all of the the comments above are in support of your hypotheses. Although I am sure that you are a strong supporter of fair and balanced argument, one could suggest that you yourself are filtering these comments to generate an image of a “unanimous uproar” against the medical establishment. Based on the unsupported arguments here, it is still my belief that any one who encourages parents to withhold vaccines from their children is putting children at risk of contracting life-threatening disease without any demonstrable cause. As you say there are many cases where a small handful of individuals refute the standard paradigm: some claim that ionization radiation is good for you (the theory of radiation hormesis), that HIV does not exist, or that an invisible planet is approaching to kill us all. Though until I see any hard evidence from these individuals I will not entrust the health or safety of my family in the opinions of these contrarians. All the same, I wish you the best of luck in your research, and I sincerely hope that if there is a risk presented by these vaccines that it is uncovered… very soon.

    Martin Lueker
    Graduate Student
    Department of Physics
    University of California, Berkeley.

    [ED: It can be denied that vaccines have ushered in many positive benefits to children around the world and factual evidence produced to back that up. And the issue is child health safety balancing risk against alleged benefits.

    The safety studies on vaccines are just not being done and if you read this site [which you have not done as can be seen from other comments you have made] you will find hard data to back that up. You seem to be unaware that adverse reactions to all pharmaceuticals are underreported by a minimum of 90% and the figure for vaccines is put at closer to 99%.

    The few existing reliable studies are by independent researchers:

    A September 2008 study found that US boys who received the hepatitis B vaccine had a 9 times higher chance of developmental disabilities than unvaccinated boys. Disturbingly this appears to be the only formally published safety study comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated human individuals: Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years Toxicological and Environmental Chemistry, September 2008 Carolyn Gallagher and Melody Goodman

    And here is just published scientific safety study showing US children’s vaccines are linked to brain damage: Delayed Acquisition of Neonatal Reflexes in Newborn Primates Receiving A Thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B Vaccine: influence of gestational age and birth weight Journal of NeuroToxicology

    You can read more here:-

    CBS News – Research Links Kids Vaccines & Brain Damage

    It is disappointing to see that a graduate physicist from Berkeley is prepared to go into print on something without checking first or even having a shred of evidence to support your propositions.

    Your ignorance of the issues demonstrated by what you have written suggests that you have found this site and sounded off without finding out for yourself first or reading what is on this site [see the site index]. Your criticisms of this article are also somewhat misplaced. Anyone can see it is a summary of key issues and not a detailed treatise. The facts can be found elsewhere including on this site.

    We hope for your children that they will not be in the 30% who suffer from chronic conditions after vaccination like asthma and allergies, especially not severely or in other cases of far worse chronic conditions like autism.

    Thanks for pointing out the broken link – now fixed.]

  11. To clarify, I do not object to call for research. I object to the previous lack of external links on this page, and the reckless promotion of conspiracy theories based upon dubious research (See my previous comments elsewhere on this site). Your link to the two articles regarding mercury compounds illustrates that research is being done: I don’t know why you claim that it isn’t. (Though I find it curious that one article that you cited has since been withdrawn). I also find it most unfortunate however that this pressing social issue has been sabotaged by such frauds as Andrew Wakefield. (http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full). It is not enough that the research be done, it must be done with integrity, and adherence to the same standards that apply to all other scientific disciplines.

  12. I just noticed your response to the Wakefield allegations on the front page. It does indeed seem that all players are sadly embroiled in political intrigue. Though to a scientist political arguments are something different than evidence. The fact that this first article was originally based upon only 12 hand-picked children, makes it a pretty weak scientific case, even before the allegations of fraud are brought to the table.

  13. Martin people always throw around this Wakefield stuff to try to back up pro-vax claims. That’s completely irrelevant. I don’t care what Wakefield did or did not do, there are hundreds of other studies showing that vaccines [xxxxxxx ED edited] have no scientific evidence backing up their claims for use. Pharma also refuses to do legitimate safety tests yet [xxxxxxx ED edited] claims they are safety testing vaccines even though all one has to do is read those studies to see the whole thing is [not well founded: ED edited]. They [xxxxxxx ED edited] say they’re using a placebo when they’re really not [xxxxxxx ED edited]. They get the media [xxxxxxx ED edited] to say they’ve been safety test when they haven’t [xxxxxxx ED edited]. They claim vaccines provide protection for years when all they ever test are antibody responses and even then they only test them at most a couple weeks to a couple months, again [not well founded: ED edited]. There is just so much [xxxxxxx ED edited] it’s exactly like the Tobacco industry claiming cigarrettes were healthy and would help you live a longer life and didn’t cause cancer. Sure the people that pointed out their family members were getting cancer and dieing were called “conspiracty theorists” or that they were anti-science, even though they were the only ones actually bothering to read the science!! Again here no doctors will actually read vaccine studies, the only one I know of that do will no longer recommend vaccines to anyone.

  14. Plus, you just have to read the vaccine inserts themselves. start with that. look up every single ingredient in them and tell me if you feel that is acceptable to inject into your child, multiple times and some at exactly the same time. its like taking an aspirin, but then taking 5-6 more becuase they are in other medications, so you now have a toxic amount of aspirin in your body. Come on. read the fine print, read the CDC website. Once you do that, trust me, you too will question putting anything into your child. Plus the studies are just not there. The H1N1 didn’t even have clinical trials (from what I remember). Drugs of any kind are not good. Yes, we need some from time to time, but everything has a side effect, just like what you say has a side effect to another person. Wake up people!!!!!

  15. Just wanted to point out that the first cited article (hep B vaccine and developmental disabilities) is talking about thimerisol which is not used in vaccines in the US these days.
    Sometimes just the presence and title of a citation can lend creedence to an argument. For this reason, it’s important to actually read the articles. 🙂

    [ED: Thimerosal/thiomersal is believed continued to be used – in flu vaccines. It seems also to still be used on vaccines given to third world children. We believe that is correct but are not going to engage in a detailed investigation of vaccine ingredients at this time. The information with source references should be at various locations on the www, including in online medical journal papers].

    UPDATE 15/Nov/12 – Thimerosal/thiomersal is certainly still used in the USA in multidose vaccines vials – like flu vaccine and it will certainly still be used in multidose vaccine vials in other parts of the world, especially the third world where multidose vials are cheaper and uncertainty over refrigeration presents issues for preservation.

  16. Checking the second article (which was withdrawn), it’s also about Thimerisol. Not an issue with modern vaccines in the US. perhaps it’s time to get some new articles.

    [ED: Your misinformation is unappreciated. And you cannot even spell the brand name of the acknowledged neurotoxic in parts per billion mercury product. Ha!! 🙂

    Thimerosal/thiomersal continues to be used:

  17. Thimerosal Content in Some US Licensed Vaccines This table was updated October 11, 2011

    It seems it is also used more commonly in vaccines given to third world children. Information confirming that with source references can be found at various locations on the www, including in online medical journal papers].

    So there is no reason to remove perfectly good articles which have the date of their posting on them.

    Your claim to “second article (which was withdrawn)” is not understood. None of the articles on this post have been “withdrawn” so what are you referring to?

    If you want to post tosh that is up to you but it is at your own risk, which is small because you choose to be anonymous.

  18. Re. Thimerosal … I live in Australia and part of my job (unfortunately) is to give vaccines… And some of these have thimerosal 😦

  19. I respectfully disagree, there is an anti-vaccine movement even if it consists of only myself. After spending thousands of hours viewing the COPIOUS “vaccination” evidence this is my simple conclusion.

    “Vaccination” is a means for world depopulation. No other conclusion fits the evidence.

    Now can I be against this? Please join me; facing the ultimate “vaccination” truth is the only way this genocidal madness can end.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm

  20. Check the link. The article was withdrawn by the editor. Thanks for the spelling advice, though! The article title says “WITHDRAWN”

    “Note to users: Withdrawn Articles in Press are proofs of articles which have been peer reviewed and initially accepted, but have since been withdrawn before being published in this journal.”

    It does seem like doing an investigation of the ingredients in the vaccines would be a good next step to take… Since the ingredients are implicated in all of the damage… Right?

    Silly blogger!

    [ED: Ha! The paper was withdrawn not because there was anything wrong with its findings but just because Dr Andrew Wakefield’s name was on it. None of its findings have been overturned. Thanks for the abuse though – soooo typical of a reader of gawky Dr Gorski’s [ORAC’S] blog. ]

  21. Read this! This guy seems so much smarter than you!

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/07/some-monkey-business-in-autism-research-1/

    Another question that needs to be asked. Why did the investigators look at thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccination? There’s no thimerosal in the hepatitis B vaccine anymore and hasn’t been since 2001. In fact, if you read the methods section of the paper, you’ll see that Hewitson et al added thimerosal to Recombivax HB (Merck) in order to recreate that thimerosal feeling from the 1990s. Why would they do that? Especially since the authors state in the conclusion that the study design “was not able to determine whether it was the vaccine per se, the exposure to thimerosal, or a combination of both, that caused these effects.” More on near the end of this piece.

    [ED: Ha! Dr David Gorski [aka ORAC] rants frequently. It is a free world so you are free to read him.

    Why would researchers add thiomersal/thimerosal for their investigation of the link between thiomersal/thimerosal with autism etc? You seem to think it is a fraud. That is because you read Dr Gorki’s rants and believe them.

    How about because since the mid-1980s hundreds of millions of children received thiomersal/thimerosal containing vaccines and around 1 in 64 children now have autistic conditions, many more have allergies, many more have asthma, tics, ADHD and other conditions. So if the link is to be investigated then you will need to reproduce the same conditions which means using thiomersal/thimerosal containing vaccines. If there are none being manufactured then someone has to make thiomersal/thimerosal containing vaccines to use in the investigations.

    Have we spelt this out clearly enough for you? Maybe not if you read Dr Gawkski?]

  22. I’m not sure whether to take this article and the ensuing comments seriously – or simply treat the whole lot as a bad joke.

    In my world I’d have a test for intelligence, and if you didn’t meet my expectation you’d be force fed the anti-stupidity vaccine!

    I can accept that if 1 in 64 children suffers from autism because they we immunised (or vaccinated), and 100,000’s of children have been treated, then there must be 10’s of 1,000’s of autistic children who otherwise would not have been autistic. Is this true?

    And further, that the level of autism, that would normally occur in a population (as a background count) is much higher because children have been treated?

    Assuming that the diagnoses are correct, that is, the statistic didn’t suddenly pop up on the radar because somebody else labelled a condition as autism, what is the chance that something else in the dietary intake, genetic make-up, environmental did not contribute to this outcome?

  23. One of the autism doctors found that the autistic children he treated often had a compromised immune system (like a slight cold) when they were vaccinated. The autism statistics match the vaccination rates. Third world countries where children were not vaccinated have no autism. Every time another vaccine is added to the recommended schedule, the autism rate goes up. Population groups such as the Hispanics in the USA have a lower vaccination rate and lower autism rate. Are there other factors that may contribute to autism. Of course. But none of them can explain the rise in autism and the lack of autism as well as vaccines.

  24. “There’s no thimerosal in the hepatitis B vaccine anymore and hasn’t been since 2001”

    One should be careful before repeating this mantra. Despite my best efforts “officialdom” has been unable to provide me with “vaccine” quantitative analysis to the nanogram level. My strong suspicion is that there remains 100s of nanograms of mercury in many forms in MANY vaccines. These nanograms of mercury combined with the INCREASING amounts of aluminum being ADDED to “vaccines” should serve to continue the overall neurodegenerative effect of the “vaccines” in toto, despite the removal of SOME mercury.

    “Pure thimerosal is toxic at the low nanomolar level – an extremely low concentration, about 10,000 times less than the thimerosal concentration found in most vaccines.” Doctor J. Curtis Pendergrass and Doctor Boyd Haley Kentucky University

    “A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum.” Dr. Donald W. Miller, Jr., Mercury on the Mind, http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller14.html, Note both mercury and aluminum are found in MANY “vaccines”

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_mercury.htm

  25. You all are so funny! “There’s no T in vaccines anymore so of course they added it to find out what happened to kids in the past!” “T is still in there in nano grams!” “The third world is getting T in their vaccines!” “There’s no autism in the third world because there are no vaccines!”
    This would be much funnier if it didn’t have implications for actual children at risk for actual disease. And just because you write “Ha!” Before a statement doesn’t make it make any more sense.
    I’m sorry that you’ve dedicated your life to this sad cause. I’m glad that there are lots of voices on the subject. I know what it’s like to be in the minority (right or wrong) and its tough to go against the grain or the prevailing wisdom.
    In other news… We can all agree that climate change is real, right? 😉

    [ED: Hi Clare. What is the rate of adverse reactions to vaccines? Do you know? How does that compare to the risks of the diseases? Do you know?

    Oh, there is mercury in flu vaccines – multidose vials and less in single dose vials. There is mercury in third world vaccines because multidose vials are in more common use because of refrigeration issues. How come you did not know that?

    You are so funny. Ha!]

  26. Okay. This is getting kind of silly and I can’t even remember how I found this site, but my e-mail box is lighting up every time somebody replies! So…

    The rate of adverse effects of vaccines vs the risk of the diseases themselves is difficult to determine BECAUSE OF VACCINES! If you depend on herd immunity (that most of the people near you will be vaccinated) and you don’t vaccinate, your risk of contracting a disease is low. BUT in an area where there is no vaccination against disease that you’re ALSO not vaccinated against, your risk is increased.
    So you can depend on herd immunity and not vaccinate, but know that your health is based on an expectation that others will do something that you’ve not done.

    The mercury-flu-“third-world” thing is just confusing. I genuinely don’t think that mercury causes autism. I think it’s too bad that this issue has received any attention at all because it focuses attention in the wrong place. Of course, now I’m giving it attention so I guess I’m culpable!

    On a personal note, I don’t mean to pretend or to come off like I know everything about this issue. The truth is, one doesn’t need to know a whole lot to be able to see through the logical errors in most of the arguments on this site.

    I think that just on the face of it, one side of the “debate” sounds like it’s populated by conspiracy theorists and paranoid obsessives. The other side is mostly scientists. And people who read (not just blogs written by other people who are nuts). And doctors. I’m glad to be on the second side. 🙂

    [ED: Clare: you chanced by this site; you do not know what you are talking about; and you think you are an expert because you swallow the line put out by government health officials. They are notorious for not telling it as it is.

    Whilst we know vaccines are not safe we do not know the full extent. This is because:

    1) the general rate of under-reporting for all drugs is 98 adverse reactions in 100: “Spontaneous adverse drug reaction reporting vs event monitoring: a comparison” A P Fletcher Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine Volume 84 June 1991 341.

    2) they are not properly tested in placebo controlled randomised trials unlike other drugs;

    3) under reporting for vaccines is believed to be higher than mainstream drugs.

    4) disease risk in developed nations is far lower than the third world because most of our children are well-nourished with far better sanitation and other living conditions.

    So the figures government give out to compare the risks of vaccines with diseases have first to be altered by a factor of 50 times to get some meaningful adjustment. That is a big factor. But as the vaccines are not properly tested the figures they have are also unrepresentative of the true level of adverse reactions so the 50 times figure is clearly just a guideline.

    So Clare, we have demonstrated with just one point that a) you don’t know what you are talking about b) there is nothing illogical about the foregoing and c) you clearly have swallowed the line from government health officials and think because of that you are an expert but the people who do know much more than you are worthy of your scorn and a bit of sport.

    Now, do you see the problem?

    Thought not. People like you never will. You stick to what you think is the majority line because it is safer for you. The majority line is in fact put out by relatively small numbers of people like health officials and some medical professionasl in some countries around the world and a majority unthinkingly follow what they say.

    It is not healthy for democracy or our society.]

  27. I would like to see one study showing that vaccines actually even saved lives from the diseases they are trying to prevent. there aren’t any. they can’t be done. so in so didn’t get the flu this year, oh i am sure it was becuase she got the flu shot. how do you know? you don’t. so to say they are safe and preventing illness is an illusion. there is no way to even know . yet now we are seeing the diseases being in the vaccinated.. that to me shows they don’t work, have never worked and are just a joke really.

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