“Children to Die” – Latest Flu Scaremongering

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Here you can see debunked the Philadelphia Inquirer news story put out by Dr Paul Offit’s Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia ['CHOP'] implying your kids may die in the much hyped “just around the corner”  “coming to your town soon” non-existent worldwide swine ‘flu” non-pandemic: [Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues] 16th June 2009 Mark Roth.

Below are edited email exchanges between “Philly” reporter Mark Roth [who wrote the CHOP "death is coming soon" story]  and UK pro bono lawyer  and trained scientist Clifford Miller.

See the record set  straight and the facts CHOP left out to scare parents.

And do vaccines cause autistic conditions?  If you read nothing else we strongly recommend you read this: PDF Download – Text of May 5th 2008 email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News].  In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkission

We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.

Despite all the lies and deceit by health official worldwide, the question “do vaccines cause autism” was answered after the Hannah  Poling story broke in the USA in February 2008 [see CHS article here].  Hannah developed an autistic condition after 9 vaccines administered the same day.  Under the media spotlight numerous US health officials and agencies conceded on broadcast US nationwide TV news from CBS and CNN. Full details with links to the original sources can be found in this CHS article: Vaccination Causes Autism – Say US Government & Merck’s Director of Vaccines. [Blue Text added 10 April 2011]

Death is coming” as the latest marketing tool for ‘flu vaccines beats George Lucas’  1970′s Star Wars is Comingstyle campaign to promote his excellent films.

But to use it to blackmail parents to put their children at risk from experimental vaccines is unacceptable.  And the more so because there is no way pneumonia will kill vast numbers ever again [even if maybe one of  the many 'flu vaccines incubates a new strain in some hapless recipient]. Pneumonia and other disease mortality rates have plummetted since 1918 and not because of medical intervention: Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries of Official Statistics.

And here is something else you were not told:-

Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization For Flu, Study Suggests – ScienceDaily (May 20, 2009).

A CHOP colleague of Dr Paul Offit [who made US$29 million from his rotavirus  vaccine patent] Dr. Kathleen Sullivan, chief of allergy and immunology at Children’s Hospital in Philadelphia, is quoted extensively about her new paper all about the new killer plagues.  These  seem to have replaced other threats of world extinction.

The “world asteroid threat” was promoted widely after the “communists nukes threat” pretty well ended with the cold war – ["killer asteroids" was not likely to last - a tough thing to merchandise - even in the US].

The CHOP story stated:-

….. most people have now heard of the 1918 flu pandemic, which killed nearly 50 million people around the world.

…… very few of those victims died of the flu itself.

Many historians now believe 95 percent of those deaths were caused by secondary bacterial pneumonia, which swept in after people’s bodies had been weakened by the flu virus.

…. bacterial pneumonia is not as big a killer in today’s flu epidemics …. it is still a major threat.

….. the World Health Organization has formally declared the new H1N1 swine flu as a global pandemic, with 29,000 cases and at least 144 deaths in 74 countries, ….. the medical community and the public need to remain alert to the dangers …. particularly from strep pneumoniae.

Dr. Kathleen Sullivan … published a study ….. showing that in many children who die from flu complications …

….. one-third of the children … die after flu infections …..

A common pattern ….. is that they seem to be recovering from the flu. Then …. they suddenly get much sicker and rapidly weaken — a sign of the bacterial onslaught.”

Here you can see the facts CHOP left out of their story and see the record set  straight in UK pro bono lawyer  and trained scientist Clifford Miller’s edited email exchanges with the “Philly’s” correspondent Mark Roth who wrote the CHOP “death is coming soon” story.


From:Clifford G. Miller

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:32 AM
To: Mark Roth
Subject: Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues
Importance: High

Dear Mark,

Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues

Dr Paul Offit’s hospital is scaremongering.  Official US data show there is no chance of a repeat of 1918 [more below].  Offit has made US$29 million from his rotavirus vaccine patent [which caused children more problems than it was supposed to prevent when first used].

There is no way pneumonia will kill vast numbers ever again. Pneumonia and other disease mortality rates have plummetted since 1918 and not because of medical intervention.  You can see for yourself here from official US, UK and Australian statistics. Historical mortality statistics demonstrate the 1918 pandemic was a “one off” at a time when poverty was high, social conditions were poor and all mortality was several orders of magnitude higher than today:-

2 Centuries of Official Statistics

As a result of clean drinking water and improved nutrition people’s immune systems are more robust and it is a medically accepted phenomenon that infectious disease attenuates – becomes milder – all by itself over time.

And the statistics of a supposed 29,000 swine ‘flu cases across 75% of the world’s population [around 3 billion people] and 137 supposed deaths – are ridiculously low compared to ordinary flu or just crossing the street.

More people have probably died from yawning at news like this.

The health agencies are not carrying out proper testing and they halved their previous “death” figures when they unleashed the hysteria over Mexico and we are still being given the same ones weeks later.  Where are the masses of new deaths?

Is there any way to get to the bottom of who is responsible for whipping up this worldwide hysteria in the medical professions over this non-existent “pandemic” and to get the facts rather than the hype?

This is part of the drug companies’ marketing plans to push vaccines including annual ‘flu vaccines under their changed business models:-

New Report Forecasts More Than Doubling of Vaccine Sales by 2013 – MarketWatch Jun 11, 2009 – Kalorama News Release

Kids’ vaccine market set to quadruple – Drug Researcher – By Anna Lewcock 20-Nov-2007

Some drug companies have repeatedly shown they falsify data.  This includes falsified data published in peer reviewed journals to promote one drug or another.  The New England Journal of Medicine is meant to be the world leading but has been caught numerous times over this kind of thing.  And the problem appears to be getting worse if US Senator Grassley’s commendable recent work is any indication.

Mainstream EU vaccine expert Dr Tom Jefferson has already shown ‘flu vaccines to be ineffective and publicly said so. The vaccines have adverse effects which are just not being counted – especially because of the kind of mindless medical hysteria we are seeing now: [Winter flu jabs evidence queried BBC - Thursday, 26 October 2006].

How is it possible we have health officials giving this the time of day – at tax payers’ expense?

From: Clifford G. Miller,
Beckenham, Kent BR3 3LA, England

——– Original Message ——–

Subject: RE: Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:05 -0400
From: Mark Roth
To: Clifford G. Miller

Clifford: I won’t attempt to respond to all the points you make below. I’ll simply note that a) Paul Offit had nothing to do with the study I cited; b) At no point did the study or the story imply that the new flu strain would cause as many deaths as the 1918 pandemic

——– Original Message ——–

Subject: Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:04:21 +0100
From: Clifford G. Miller
To: Mark Roth

Dear Mark,

Children’s Hospital study links deaths to post-flu issues

Thanks for replying.  I am not criticising you.  You can only work with what you are given.  I am making sure that:-

  • next time you get something from The Children’s Hospital of Philadephia you know you cannot trust it;
  • you have the facts which CHOP left out of the story they gave you;

And they are scaremongering.  The story they gave you started by referring to the 1918 flu pandemic as if it could happen again and wrote of children dying and made direct reference to the current non-existent swine flu pandemic [on the same page as] the 1918 one.

Some drug companies can and will do anything to sell their products and they have their hooks everywhere.  ….. There are thousands of hospitals in the US.  It just happens to be coincidental that one of Offit’s colleagues at his hospital is involved in putting out a paper to scare people with misleading information about a current pandemic which will kill their children and the hospital itself is identified in the headline to your story.

And if anyone believes the BS people like Offit put out about vaccines not causing autism, I challenge anyone to claim the hard data from Japan is not proof.  You can find it here:-

Japanese Data Show Vaccines Cause Autism -  June 3, 2009

“Just months following the US Court of Federal Claims rejection of the claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism, here you will see data from formal peer refereed medical papers showing that vaccines caused autism in Japanese children and will be doing the same to children around the world. The number of Japanese children developing autism rose and fell in direct proportion to the number of children vaccinated each year [click image for larger graph in new window]:-

090610 Terada Graph Data - by % Births

Read on ….
Japanese Data Show Vaccines Cause Autism -  June 3, 2009



From: Clifford G. Miller,
Beckenham, Kent BR3 3LA, England


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Governments expect parents to trust the health and safety of their children to drug companies like Merck, a manufacturer of the MMR and other vaccines.

5 Responses

  1. History tells us there may have been much more to the 1918 pandemic than a “flu” virus causing secondary bacterial infections – although that probable myth provides a more than adequate basis for the “medical advice” meted out by numerous big pharma-related “experts”. The pandemic began in an army camp in the US, Camp Funston, and spread to other camps and jails. Soldiers of the time reported their illness being typhoid vaccination-related. Stories allude to that vaccine causing the inital onslaught that may have induced a paratyphoid epidemic, thence to be “modified” by the vaccinators and the new version vaccine causing the more deadly Autumn onslaught that eventually spread around te world causing tens of millions of deaths. We are seeing a kind of replay with the current “swine flu” – probably laboratory vaccine version – unleashed by accidant or design into the global community that has already surpassed the initial barriers by spreading by “shedding” contact and not by vaccine alone, thank god this “vaccine version” being relatively innocuous compared to published “seasonal flu” attrition rates.

    The symptoms of the 1918 pandemic were akin to pneumonic plague, not influenza; plague and other vaccines were in distribution from similar origins – the US Rockefeller Institute – so god only knows which vaccines (some no doubt experimental) those young troops were subjected to prior to crossing to France to die.

    History tells us that whole streets of people fortuntae enough to be treated homeopathically survived whilst their neighbours treated allopathically died; did homeopathy save them, or did allopathy kill their neighbours? Will antibiotiocs and NSAIDS save 2009/10 victims or cause rapid detrioration as the drugs cause the pathogens to mutate, as they are able, to more deadly versions? Will yet another laboratory vaccine virus be unleashed in Autumn – Fort Detrick reports unexplained disappearances of many pathogenic substances; the US firm Baxter International unleashed the bird flu experimental bug into Europe in its seasonal flu vaccine just prior to the recent “swine flu” outbreak, that actually started in California not Mexico according to recent reports, fortunately Czech scientists identified the contamination before it could cause widespread death and destruction starting in their country. Might we therefore reasonably expect the most dangerous option will be to use any swine and/or bird flu vaccine from any company this year as the only test for such a product was when Americans suffered heavily , in health and financially, from their version only a couple of decades ago?

    We need a proper widespread information campaign prepared to answer, scientifically, all these questions; we do not need the usual rhetoric from governments that serves only the industries – it is men, women and children who pay not corporations.

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  3. remember also, in 1918 – the US population consumed refined white flour products and white rice in huge quantities. It wasn’t until 1934 that many b vitamins were discovered and isolated and the realization made that the ‘refining’ process for flour and rice stripped these foods of their nutrients, including b vitamins. It wasn’t until 1942 that ‘enriched’ wheat products came on the market. the 1918 population was most likely chronically malnourished and therefore, poorly equipped to deal with the flu. Tell everyone. You can’t scare people with the 1918 epidemic if you educate them on why they were at risk then.

  4. I might have actually took this article seriously except for where you start in on autism in the very bottom. Talk about derailing and trying to bait someone. The article wasn’t about autism, you are pushing your own agenda and failed horribly at it.

    [ED: You seem to have missed the point - the Japanese data implicate all the vaccines given to children. So you want all children to have a 'flu vaccine which 1) Jefferson says does not work and 2) when we have hard data from Japan implicating all paediatric vaccines.

    Looks like you need to take things a little more seriously than you have instead of posting a thoughtless comment of the kind you have].

  5. The 1918 pandemic holds valuable lessons for us today IMO.

    From my Research here are the KEY Points

    o A 1918 virus killed NO ONE

    o The various forms of “vaccination” forced into the troops and conned into the citizens in particular the “Typhus Vaccines” were often the first cause of infection.

    o The hemorrhagic Lung that killed many was often caused by the initial infection, Aspirin and lack of vitamin C.

    We need to learn about 1918 IMO because the H5N1 Political Pandemic they are waiting to loose upon us may play out in a very similar fashion. In particular many tens of grams of sodium ascorbate/day may be required prevent the bleeding lungs. The hospitals will NOT give you the vitamin C REQUIRED to build your lung collagen.


    If you take the considerable time to read and investigate the above very insightful papers you may come to these conclusions.

    The Rockefeller Medical Interests were DEEPLY involved in the 1918 Pandemic

    Common Influenza and more dangerous TB may be caused by different forms of the same pathogen

    The base killing agent in 1918 may very well have been the TB BACILLUS in its two forms

    Rockefeller manufactured “vaccines” were likely VERY causative of the 1918 Pandemic

    It is likely NO VIRUSES were significantly involved in the 1918 pandemic

    These facts were (and are) deliberately obfuscated

    1918 like most pandemics was man made and NEEDLES were a REQUIRED part

    Only truly evil people manufacture pandemics to murder tens of millions or more

    Only frightening politically powerful people can get away with this mass murder

    Here is your H1N1

    “In 1917 it was estimated that 25% of deaths from tuberculosis in adult humans were caused by animal tuberculosis. [16] Nor did the fact that swine freely infected humans and vice versa faze von Unruh. Swine were a mycobacterial laboratory, and although they held primarily fowl tuberculosis they could also acquire bovine and human forms, and freely infect people.” Influenza: How A Microbe Was Repackaged and Sold as Being a Virus

    The Latest Party Line from NIH

    Bacterial pneumonia caused most deaths in 1918 influenza pandemic

    “The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs.” NIAID, NIH

    This description of 1918 comes close to what may be the reality of 1918. Notice they left our the parts played by vitamin C and aspirin which surely they have figured out.

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