Autism In Amish Children – 1 in 10,000

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After learning that “Autism Rates Rocket – 1 in 38 British Boys – Cambridge Study” we now find Dr. Max Wiznitzer, a key vaccine proponent admitted on Friday night’s US TV programme Larry King Live that the rate of autism in northeastern Ohio, the largest Amish community in the USA with low rates of vaccination, was 1 in 10,000. He should know, he said: “I’m their neurologist.” [See: Larry King Live – Breakthrough Coverage & More]

And do vaccines cause autistic conditions?  If you read nothing else we strongly recommend you read this: PDF Download – Text of May 5th 2008 email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News].  In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkission

We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.

Despite all the lies and deceit by health official worldwide, the question “do vaccines cause autism” was answered after the Hannah  Poling story broke in the USA in February 2008 [see CHS article here].  Hannah developed an autistic condition after 9 vaccines administered the same day.  Under the media spotlight numerous US health officials and agencies conceded on broadcast US nationwide TV news from CBS and CNN. Full details with links to the original sources can be found in this CHS article: Vaccination Causes Autism – Say US Government & Merck’s Director of Vaccines. [Blue Text added 10 April 2011]

Dr. Max Wiznitzer of University Hospitals in Cleveland is an expert witness for the government against the families who file in the US National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. In the US Federal Court case of Ben Zeller of proven developmental delay caused by vaccines the Court commented on Dr Wiznitzer’s expert testimony defending the vaccines on behalf of the defendant US Department of Health and Human Services that Wiznitzer had no alternative explanation for Ben Zeller’s injuries beyond:-

Unconfirmed speculation by a few treating doctors, as with Dr. Wiznitzer’s hypothesization” http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/ABELL.ZELLER073008.pdf

Wiznitzer admits to Amish vaccination rates being around 50% but others have reported very much lower rates.

Dr Wiznitzer’s comment is recorded in this extract of CNN’s transcript of the programme [emphasis added]:-

KARTZINEL: I think they made some very good points, especially about doing studies with children who haven’t been vaccinated. When you look at smoking, for example, when you look at smokers and the rates of lung cancer, it didn’t become apparent until they compared that to non-smokers. Then the lung cancer rates were high.

We need to look at these diseases, whether it be childhood asthma or attention deficit order or autism, and look at them among those who were vaccinated and compare them to those who weren’t.

KING: Are you saying it will show that vaccinations played a part?

KARTZINEL: Absolutely.

KING: How will you respond to that, Dr. Wiznitzer?

WIZNITZER: Years ago, I thought about this idea among the Amish population here in northeast Ohio, to whom I am actually the neurologist. And I went to the public health nurses and said, tell me about their vaccination rates. And I was told that there is a very high rate of vaccination amongst the Amish population. Out of ten thousand of individuals in our population, we have one child with autism. I see all these children.

The fact is, we can’t basically use the argument. It’s much more complex than just vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

But the following extract by journalist and former senior UPI Editor Dan Olmsted disagrees:-

“Wang is the medical director, and a physician and researcher, at the DDC Clinic for Special Needs Children, created three years ago to treat the Amish in northeastern Ohio.

“I take care of all the children with special needs,” he said, putting him in a unique position to observe autism. “The one case Wang has identified is a 12-year-old boy.”

He said half the children in the area were vaccinated, half weren’t. That child, he said, was vaccinated, but let’s not split hairs here. Either vaccinated or unvaccinated, that’s a low rate — 1 in 5000. The question I didn’t think to ask at the time but will soon, is, exactly how were those half vaccinated? Flu shots for pregnant moms? Hep B at birth? Chickenpox and MMR on the same day at one year? Rotavirus, Hep B, Hep A, and on and on? Or did it look more like the less intense, less front-loaded schedule in place in the rest of the country back before the autism epidemic began? The kind Jenny and Jim and J.B. and Jerry (hey, the four J’s!) keep harking back to when the autism rate was, like, 1 in 10,000 and we still managed to stave off wholesale plagues.

Let’s even stipulate that the vaccine schedule for every single Amish child is now fully loaded and follows the CDC to a T. What is Wiznitzer’s point? That the Amish genes protect them? Well, good for them, then, let’s find out why. Or, that some kind of other environmental risk is absent? In that case, autism is a genetic vulnerability with an environmental trigger, and something about the Amish world is not triggering it, which puts us back about where I started four years ago. There would have been plenty of time to have the answer right now if Julie Gerberding weren’t still filibustering the question by talking about numerators, denominators and getting more research into the pipeline as fast as bureaucratically possible (meaning never, never, never).

Critics of the Amish Anomaly — like critics of the idea that vaccines might be implicated in autism — want to have it every which way.

For a closely related stories see:

Autism Not Genetic – Says Expert Professor Simon Baron Cohen

Autism Increase Environmental Not Genetic – Says New Director of USA’s $30.5 Billion Health Research Budget

For more read:

Olmsted on Autism: 1 in 10,000 Amish – April 04, 2009.

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13 Responses

  1. There are a whole host of things the Amish do not have, aside from modern vacination, and keep in mind many are vacinated. Amish typiclly eat whole foods and grains, not so many processed foods high in sodium and other additives. Amish do not have TV’s, the kids are not raised by a television! There typically are no phone or powerlines in close proximity of many Amish farms. The list goes on and on, it’s not only vacines that are different in Amish culture and the rate of autism

    [ED: There are no excuses for not carrying out studies on the Amish.

    The University of Maryland has been conducting clinical trials on the Amish population for nearly 15 years. “Ultimately, the Amish people are interesting not because they’re different from us. They are us,” said Dr. D. Holmes Morton.”The genetic problems that are studied here are just genetic problems that came from Europe 300 years ago,” Morton said, whose Clinic for Special Children in nearby Strasburg has treated Amish children with rare genetic disorders for two decades.

    FULL STORY HERE
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    Of trust and science
    Yearslong study of the Amish has given a UM researcher medical insight and a unique role in their tight-knit realm – By Stephanie Desmon Baltimore Sun – April 5, 2009

  2. I also think that you have to consider how many generations of vaccinations you are looking at. The heavy metals are difficult if not impossible for the body to get out. So if you have three generations of vaccinated people having children, you could have babies being born with full loads of the vaccinations’ heavy metals already in their bodies. Vaccinating these children would obviously be more harmful than say a first generation Amish child being vaccinated. This could explain the lower rate of autism in the Amish.

  3. I am also wondering about the effect of maternal vaccination.

    How many studies have been done on the rates of autism in children born to non-vaccinated mothers vs the rates of autism in children born to vaccinated mothers?

    I have never heard of any such study, but certainly looking at it from a generational perspective it makes more sense because if it was just the vaccine itself affecting as child, the rates of autism would have shot up dramatically as soon as childhood immunizations were started as a public health measure.
    Instead it has been rising steadily over several generations..

    [ED: Autism prevalence and incidence does not increase stepwise with vaccination rates. There is a long time lag.

    With any new condition caused by an environmental factor like vaccination autism prevalence will continue to rise for around 60 years. After that time deaths will start to balance out new cases/diagnoses and “recoveries” [to the extent the latter is possible].

    The reason for the time lag is the average ages of diagnosis. For Asperger Syndrome this is around 8-9 years of age. For typical/childhood/Kanner autism it is 3 to 4 years.

    This means that for children born in any one year it could take around 25 years for most to be diagnosed [from the most severe to the mildest cases].

    So in year 25 [counting from when the increase first started] the overall rate of autism in the population will have only most of the children born in year 1 diagnosed and for children born in year 25 their diagnoses will not start until around years 27 to 28.

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  5. what about all the daily chemical exposures that are much lower in the Amish populations. Especially for pregnant woman.

  6. [...] Interestingly the rate of autism in northeastern Ohio, the largest Amish community in the USA with low rates of vaccination, was only 1 in 10,000. Is it only a coincidence that the Amish community where few are vaccinated have one of the lowest rates of autism?   [...]

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